A podcast episode examined “downshifting,” the decision to exchange a well-paid or specialized job for work involving less pressure or specialist knowledge, often for lower pay. It featured Okke Amerongen, who moved from e-commerce to baking from home; Nikki van Zunderd, who became a hiking coach in the Austrian mountains after working as a works council trainer; and Tobias Molenaar, who left sustainability consulting to become a bicycle courier. None said they regretted the change.